tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8930529650384824164.post6821341002007274772..comments2023-05-07T08:36:04.125-06:00Comments on Merchant Monarchy: Skill Planning for TradersMoxNixhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12407914481361718041noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8930529650384824164.post-89949748278720387592012-12-27T03:08:19.309-06:002012-12-27T03:08:19.309-06:00For null sec manipulations the most notable recent...For null sec manipulations the most notable recent one probably was the Goons Scimitar manipulation in the Delve campaign last summer. The Goons had been quietly buying up Scimitars in high sec for a few days, I believe, then pushed forward and cleared out all the stock. All stock in -A- stations was bought and relisted absurdly high. This was coordinated with key reinforcement timers so that -A- and their Soco allies were simply unable to field fleets as FCs don't undock without adequate numbers of logistics.<br /><br />There was also a lot of low level hostile profiteering done on the -A- markets in that campaign, simply buying up, say, ammo for the fleets that they were flying and relisting it at double price. In most cases those were attempts to sell to a captive audience as opposed to the Scimi manoeuvre which was an attempt to completely deny stock.<br /><br />Later there was a drama in -A- again a couple of months ago over relisting. An ally was unhappy about repair fees in -A- stations so when FC Makalu announced that they would be reshipping to Tempests this guy bought out all the Tempests and relisted them for substantially more. PL spies uploaded the rather amusing soundcloud.<br /><br />https://soundcloud.com/ohseven/soco-aftermath-09-09bywrikhooverStabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08716211705647213383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8930529650384824164.post-22274401625524398562012-12-04T02:08:10.653-06:002012-12-04T02:08:10.653-06:00I have wondered about corps/alliances using market...I have wondered about corps/alliances using market manipulation as a war tactic.<br /><br />I'd love to hear more about it from commenters.<br /><br />MoxNixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12407914481361718041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8930529650384824164.post-21131730239817395602012-12-04T01:49:15.312-06:002012-12-04T01:49:15.312-06:00You bring up some excellent points Stabs. I didn&#...You bring up some excellent points Stabs. I didn't post about that kind of stuff because<br /><br />a) The post was already getting pretty big without it.<br /><br />b) Other than using Daytrading to update orders while doing other things (I did mean to mention that in the post and I'll fix that now), I don't think very many players actually do that kind of stuff much, especially not as a regular everyday trading strategy.<br /><br />BTW, I have done all of the things you mention at one time or another though not as a consistent regular part of my trading strategy. Now that my main is free of Jita I'll be spending a lot more time in null on him and while I plan on doing several different things there ninja trading is definately part of the plan.MoxNixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12407914481361718041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8930529650384824164.post-91834863111292049802012-12-03T08:40:50.740-06:002012-12-03T08:40:50.740-06:00Good post. I'd like to come to the defence of ...Good post. I'd like to come to the defence of remote orders a bit as I think you may be underselling them.<br /><br />Market manipulation of enemy staging hubs is a big tactic in null sec. It's also a way for bold independent traders to "ninja trade". Go to a busy null sec system, buy all the trit people have listed at 5 isk because they think they're selling to their friends, relist for 10 and watch your wallet fatten.<br /><br />Daytrading also allows you to modify orders while doing something else. So you can be gate camping or mining or ratting in a drone boat or something that doesn't require too much effort while adjusting the prices on hundreds of orders. (to 0.01 isk cheaper than the other guys, naturally).<br /><br />Procurement let's you target a number of busy hubs. Suppose you want to buy meta 4 shield transporters in The Forge. Jita top buy is 20k but at some of the individual missioning hubs the price is as low as 1 isk. So instead of putting up a regionwide buy order at Jita for 20000.01, you could put an order at Korsiki for 10000.01, an order at jita, an order at osmon for 5000.01, an order at Uitra for 1.01. So you would pay a lot less for those modules.<br /><br />If you wanted that set of orders to be within 2 jumps orders then you would need a couple of levels of Visibility.<br /><br />Another use in the old days was to be able to update Jita orders while not actually in Jita and thus not suffering Jita lag but Jita's really not laggy any more.Stabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08716211705647213383noreply@blogger.com